#175 Dean, Ryan & George - The Most Overlooked Lever in Bodybuilding (It's not 💉💊)

PED escalation, timing in prep, and the most overlooked lever in bodybuilding. This episode cover these topics and more.

Oh, and don't miss the first-time-injection horror stories :S

00:00 Intro & morning nootropic chat
04:32 Ryan's prep breakthrough after an 8-week plateau
05:25 Coaching trust & knowing when to end a client relationship
09:53 Hardest thing to change in clients: PEDs, training, or nutrition?
12:40 Why training is the most overlooked lever in bodybuilding
19:42 Athlete update: Rach's tough judging in Italy
26:26 Athlete update: Tom's 2nd place & Olympia qualification math
34:00 Layering PED dosing through a prep
48:51 Sometimes clients need to fail before they believe less is more
51:58 Hypothetical: would a real growth drug ruin bodybuilding?
1:01:54 Early supplement & injection horror stories
1:06:58 Two Truths and a Lie
1:14:09 Wrap-up

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